S4E15: Brendan Lee and Zach Groshell on Effective Leadership

Welcome back to Progressively Incorrect, a show sponsored by John Catt from Hodder Education and hosted by me, Dr. Zach Groshell. John Catt publishes some of the best books in education, including my book, Just Tell Them: The Power of Explanations and Explicit Teaching.

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This is the third conversation between Dr. Zach Groshell and Brendan Lee.

In their first episode, they unpacked the nuances of teaching effectively.

In the second one, they spoke about coaching, culture and change.

In today’s podcast, you will hear them discuss the complex world of school leadership! They explore the key elements that contribute to a positive and productive school culture. From going beyond superficial evaluation methods to building a diverse team that leverages everyone’s strengths, they cover a range of important topics that will help school leaders create a thriving learning environment for both students and teachers.

Zach’s four points were:

1. Leaders need to start minimizing evaluations and start maximizing teacher performance 
2. Leaders should view behavior as a system that involves everyone, including them 
3. Leaders don’t have to be the best teachers on earth, but they do have to know something about instruction 
4. Leaders should move away from one-off PD as the primary means of teacher training. 

Brendan’s four points were:

1. Leaders need to have their fingers on the pulse
2. Clear Communication is key
3. Leaders need to build a diverse team
4. Good leaders don’t care about who is right or wrong

You can connect with Brendan:

Twitter: @learnwithmrlee

Facebook: @learningwithmrlee

Website: learnwithlee.net

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